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		<title>By: Worksheet: Estimating Cash Value of Church Children Ministry Volunteer Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Worksheet: Estimating Cash Value of Church Children Ministry Volunteer Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tony Kummer</title>
		<link>http://www.thewayweseeitblog.com/2007/05/15/getting-and-keeping-183-new-volunteers/comment-page-1/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Kummer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 17:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for these insights. I am guilty of relying too much on email too. I just posted worksheet to estimate how children&#039;s ministry volunteers are worth in $$ amounts - &lt;a href=&quot;http://ministry-to-children.com/childrens-ministry/my-childrens-ministry-volunteers-deserve-42900-per-year/&quot; title=&quot;My Children’s Ministry Volunteers Deserve $42,900 Per Year.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My Children’s Ministry Volunteers Deserve $42,900 Per Year.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for these insights. I am guilty of relying too much on email too. I just posted worksheet to estimate how children&#8217;s ministry volunteers are worth in $$ amounts &#8211; <a href="http://ministry-to-children.com/childrens-ministry/my-childrens-ministry-volunteers-deserve-42900-per-year/" title="My Children’s Ministry Volunteers Deserve $42,900 Per Year." rel="nofollow">My Children’s Ministry Volunteers Deserve $42,900 Per Year.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.thewayweseeitblog.com/2007/05/15/getting-and-keeping-183-new-volunteers/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 20:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Links for those who want to take the next step:

1. Jim&#039;s book “Volunteers That Stick”:
https://www.kidzmatter.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=939&amp;category=8

2. Jim&#039;s CD “Having Enough Workers”:
https://www.kidzmatter.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=956&amp;category=8

3. Jim&#039;s book “Children’s Ministry Leadership- The You Can Do It Guide”:
https://www.kidzmatter.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=940&amp;category=8

4. Here&#039;s one that Jim didn&#039;t mention but it&#039;s excellent:
https://www.kidzmatter.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=505&amp;category=8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Links for those who want to take the next step:</p>
<p>1. Jim&#8217;s book “Volunteers That Stick”:<br />
<a href="https://www.kidzmatter.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=939&#038;category=8" rel="nofollow">https://www.kidzmatter.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=939&#038;category=8</a></p>
<p>2. Jim&#8217;s CD “Having Enough Workers”:<br />
<a href="https://www.kidzmatter.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=956&#038;category=8" rel="nofollow">https://www.kidzmatter.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=956&#038;category=8</a></p>
<p>3. Jim&#8217;s book “Children’s Ministry Leadership- The You Can Do It Guide”:<br />
<a href="https://www.kidzmatter.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=940&#038;category=8" rel="nofollow">https://www.kidzmatter.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=940&#038;category=8</a></p>
<p>4. Here&#8217;s one that Jim didn&#8217;t mention but it&#8217;s excellent:<br />
<a href="https://www.kidzmatter.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=505&#038;category=8" rel="nofollow">https://www.kidzmatter.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=505&#038;category=8</a></p>
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		<title>By: Todd McKeever</title>
		<link>http://www.thewayweseeitblog.com/2007/05/15/getting-and-keeping-183-new-volunteers/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd McKeever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 19:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The effective Executive by Drucker is the reference I was referring to.

But as Jim has mentioned I would recommend reading stuff by Drucker but I also think that the references that Jim gives that he has produced are superb resources. I personally have each one of the resources he mentioned and can tell you that they have helped me so much. The other benefit of using what Jim has produced is that it is specifically directed toward children&#039;s ministry and so you don&#039;t need to sort through and try to apply, they just apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The effective Executive by Drucker is the reference I was referring to.</p>
<p>But as Jim has mentioned I would recommend reading stuff by Drucker but I also think that the references that Jim gives that he has produced are superb resources. I personally have each one of the resources he mentioned and can tell you that they have helped me so much. The other benefit of using what Jim has produced is that it is specifically directed toward children&#8217;s ministry and so you don&#8217;t need to sort through and try to apply, they just apply.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Wideman</title>
		<link>http://www.thewayweseeitblog.com/2007/05/15/getting-and-keeping-183-new-volunteers/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Wideman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 18:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,
I think every person in leadership of any kind should read Druker&#039;s &quot;The Effective Executive!&quot;

Nevan,
3 resources I reccomend for those needed to recruit and manage volunteers are
1. My book &quot;Volunteers That Stick&quot;
2. The CD single &quot;Recruiting Like Jesus Did&quot;
3. Another book that goes along with what you were saying is &quot;Children&#039;s Ministry Leadership- The You can do it guide.&quot; In chapter 12 entitled &quot;Attracting Volunteers&quot; I give 10 steps of things to do before you start your recruiting push.
All of these are available in the kidzmatter store.
bj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,<br />
I think every person in leadership of any kind should read Druker&#8217;s &#8220;The Effective Executive!&#8221;</p>
<p>Nevan,<br />
3 resources I reccomend for those needed to recruit and manage volunteers are<br />
1. My book &#8220;Volunteers That Stick&#8221;<br />
2. The CD single &#8220;Recruiting Like Jesus Did&#8221;<br />
3. Another book that goes along with what you were saying is &#8220;Children&#8217;s Ministry Leadership- The You can do it guide.&#8221; In chapter 12 entitled &#8220;Attracting Volunteers&#8221; I give 10 steps of things to do before you start your recruiting push.<br />
All of these are available in the kidzmatter store.<br />
bj</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Baird</title>
		<link>http://www.thewayweseeitblog.com/2007/05/15/getting-and-keeping-183-new-volunteers/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Baird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 16:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Todd...can you tell me what Drucker resource you were quoting from?  I&#039;m working through that whole issue right now and would love to have some more resources to look through.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Todd&#8230;can you tell me what Drucker resource you were quoting from?  I&#8217;m working through that whole issue right now and would love to have some more resources to look through.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd McKeever</title>
		<link>http://www.thewayweseeitblog.com/2007/05/15/getting-and-keeping-183-new-volunteers/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd McKeever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 13:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree with more on everything you are talking about in this post. 

I really love what you said about how &quot;One person CAN’T have a meaningful relationship with 85 volunteers, and schedule them, mentor them, communicate with them, and be there for them at all times.&quot; 

Peter Drucker talks on this subject saying how &quot;spending a few minutes with people is simply not productive. If anyone wants to get anything across like vision, training or mentoring, one has to spend a fairly large minimum quantum of uninterrupted time&quot;.

If you don&#039;t spend this leisurely amount of time with people Peter Drucker goes on and shares of how &quot;studies have also shown that you will either lose enthusiasm and become a time server or you could begin to direct your energies toward a specialty of yours or from opportunities and needs of your organization&quot; or church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with more on everything you are talking about in this post. </p>
<p>I really love what you said about how &#8220;One person CAN’T have a meaningful relationship with 85 volunteers, and schedule them, mentor them, communicate with them, and be there for them at all times.&#8221; </p>
<p>Peter Drucker talks on this subject saying how &#8220;spending a few minutes with people is simply not productive. If anyone wants to get anything across like vision, training or mentoring, one has to spend a fairly large minimum quantum of uninterrupted time&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t spend this leisurely amount of time with people Peter Drucker goes on and shares of how &#8220;studies have also shown that you will either lose enthusiasm and become a time server or you could begin to direct your energies toward a specialty of yours or from opportunities and needs of your organization&#8221; or church.</p>
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